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Re:Shocking!- Rational approach to emotional reactions
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Dear Ram:
Your over reacting instead of seeing the historical factors.It is said
that in
India, the poor, the illiterate and the tribals have their cultural roots in
the predominant Hinduism which dominated over 2000 years, perpetuated the
caste
heirarchy and took away the land rights of the indigenous Dalits and tribals.
Please read Dr Ambedkar's Analysis of both Hinduism and Christianity. The
Christian population has decreased over the years despite all the hulabulas of
conversion. It is now only 2.3%. So wat are you woriied! There are equally
fradulent methods exported from India than imported in every sphere including
religion. People are equally shocked on Gurujis , and swamijis in the name of
religion establishing their ashrams, maths, offering kama colas and spiritual
colas in the West .
Seventh Day Adventists , whom I had known, have a high reputation of being
vegetarians, good medical and health professionals working against alcoholism
and drug abuse and offering literature on healthy food for healthy life.
Some of
them run good schools in rural areas. Many Dalits are beneficiary of the
health
and educational benefits. I have not come across any adverse conversion
process
by them. If you have then , you must substantiate it and directly confront
them
instead of getting shocked. Life is two way process. The poor, the tribals,
may
not have money but they are human beings and are endowed with intelligence and
cannot be easily converted by missionaries unless they are convinced by
something. You have been in India, next time you are here investigate what is
right or wrong with the information you got and decide it for yourself!
Indian Christians are proud our cultural heritage and yet cannot accept
oppressive and exploitative social systems like progressive, liberative people
in other religions.
Henry Thiagaraj
Director - Palar River Delta Project
Managing Trustee - Dalit Liberation Education Trust
Founder - Director, Human Rights Education Movement of India
Office: 46, Main Road, St.Thomas Mount, Chennai 600 016
Ram Narayanan wrote:
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> Rakesh wrote:
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> > As far as a policy debate is concerned the only relevant issue is whether
> > religious freedom and human rights are guaranteed. They should be.
> >
> > All Indians should be allowed to convert to Shintoism tomorrow and to
> > Rastafari the day after, if they so desired and . Its nobody else's
> > business.
> >
>
> There is no question of any Indian being prevented from changing his or her
> religion of his or her volition. The question is does any one have the right
> to to indulge in fraudulent methods to convert the poor, the illiterate and
> the tribals and in the process destroy their cultural roots? That's
> everybody's business!
>
> Ram Narayanan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rajunwk <mail@raju.net>
> To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Shocking!
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> > As far as a policy debate is concerned the only relevant issue is whether
> > religious freedom and human rights are guaranteed. They should be.
> >
> > All Indians should be allowed to convert to Shintoism tomorrow and to
> > Rastafari the day after, if they so desired and . Its nobody else's
> > business.
> >
> > No brainer.
> >
> > cheers,
> > -Rakesh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bhartiya" <llamba@siemens-hearing.com>
> > To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 7:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Shocking!
> >
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> > > Yes Hinduism survived 200 years of Europeans and 1000 years of Muslim
> rule
> > > but at what price :
> > >
> > > * 50 Percent of original Bharat Varsha is now is Muslim where you
> can't
> > > stand with tilak on
> > > your forehead without getting beheaded, Now look at north east
> > Bharat
> > > , Hindus have become
> > > minorities and now we are commanded not to celebrate our festivals
> > > else face the music.
> > >
> > > * Hindus are being pushed for "Dharma Yudh", some feel time has come ,
> > for
> > > others feeling is we
> > > will survive. yes we will survive, there is a difference between
> > > surviving and living. Time and time
> > > again during the course of Bharat's Itihas we where forced to pick
> > the
> > > weapons to resist the onslaught,
> > > those where our own people not just neighbors but our brothers and
> > > sisters. Lets stop for a while and
> > > do some introspection before we find ourselves in much bigger and
> out
> > > of control situation.
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/books/books.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Npsingh123@aol.com>
> > > To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, 16 October, 2000 3:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Shocking!
> > >
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> > > > Hinduism survived 200 years of European rule and 1000 years of Muslim
> > > rule.
> > > > So there is no need to be paranoid today. Let us get on with something
> > > more
> > > > important.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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